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View Poll Results: How should we make the video section work
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Old 6th December 2006, 10:07   #21
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I like them embedded.


I'm not sure I like either of the two methods for storing them though, mostly because I think once threads become engulfed in other ones it become very difficult to find what you're looking for intuitively. I think they should be stored with the visitor behaviour in mind rather than from an organisation point of view.

I don't think one thread per video is very good because it will become a very long list of confusing thread titles. I'd rather see one thread per game with each containing the relevant video clips as separate posts. You can still rate them but it will be on a game basis rather than individual clip basis. Nothing wrong with that because we're not trying to replicate a youtube type website we're just keeping an archive. You can still find the highly rated ones because most won't have that many clips in. There is also a danger that related threads from any one game would become separated rather than sequential. Example:

CHARLTON (A) - PREM - 23/08/2006 - 3rd United Goal
CHARLTON (A) - PREM - 23/08/2006 - 2nd United Goal
CHARLTON (A) - PREM - 23/08/2006 - 1st United Goal
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 5th United Goal
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 1st Fulham Goal
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 4th United Goal
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 3rd United Goal
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 2nd United Goal
Season 06/07
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 1st United Goal

I'd rather see...

CHARLTON (A) - PREM - 23/08/2006 - 3 Videos
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 5 Videos
SEASON 06/07 REVIEW

With each video in a separate post within each thread.


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To make them easier to search for could we then not employ a kind of keyword tagging system, whereby each individual video post contains keywords based on the video content. e.g a Video of Saha scoring a volley against fulham would contain the words; SAHA GOAL FULHAM VOLLEY, which could then be picked up using the forum search tool by entering those keywords and searching for posts.

Perhaps you could even dynamically build a forum search query string to make it easier for people to search. i.e. build quicklinks to quickly show all video posts containing SAHA+GOAL, or all GIGGS+GOAL etc.
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Old 6th December 2006, 13:34   #22
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I like them embedded.

I'd rather see...

CHARLTON (A) - PREM - 23/08/2006 - 3 Videos
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 5 Videos
SEASON 06/07 REVIEW

With each video in a separate post within each thread.
This is what I thought he was going to do, and I agree with you Darren - I think it's better. The rating system for single clips would seem to apply better to the player compilations whereas each match could have the various goals in a single thread.

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To make them easier to search for could we then not employ a kind of keyword tagging system, whereby each individual video post contains keywords based on the video content. e.g a Video of Saha scoring a volley against fulham would contain the words; SAHA GOAL FULHAM VOLLEY, which could then be picked up using the forum search tool by entering those keywords and searching for posts.

Perhaps you could even dynamically build a forum search query string to make it easier for people to search. i.e. build quicklinks to quickly show all video posts containing SAHA+GOAL, or all GIGGS+GOAL etc.
Tis possible...
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Old 6th December 2006, 15:25   #23
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To make them easier to search for could we then not employ a kind of keyword tagging system, whereby each individual video post contains keywords based on the video content. e.g a Video of Saha scoring a volley against fulham would contain the words; SAHA GOAL FULHAM VOLLEY, which could then be picked up using the forum search tool by entering those keywords and searching for posts.

Perhaps you could even dynamically build a forum search query string to make it easier for people to search. i.e. build quicklinks to quickly show all video posts containing SAHA+GOAL, or all GIGGS+GOAL etc.
I think that is a brilliant idea. If we don;t implement something like that, searching for a specific goal would be nigh on impossible.

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Old 6th December 2006, 20:21   #24
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I'd rather see...

CHARLTON (A) - PREM - 23/08/2006 - 3 Videos
FULHAM (H) - PREM - 20/08/2006 - 5 Videos
SEASON 06/07 REVIEW

With each video in a separate post within each thread.
I've been playing around and have put something together along these lines.
The Fulham thread has each post as a separate video.
The Watford thread has one post with all the videos.
Which do people prefer?

PS can somebody change the Watford thread to 2006 rather than 06?
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Old 6th December 2006, 22:59   #25
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not sure it really matters. the purist in me thinks separate posts. but i wouldn't fall on my sword over it. up to you.

ps: you can change the thread yourself. when you're inside of a thread, on the black bar where it says THREAD TOOLS - go to Edit Thread and you'll be able to change the title of it.
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Old 8th December 2006, 11:18   #26
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The United Video from this has been added to the forum

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not looked through it yet, not had time

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Old 16th December 2006, 14:11   #27
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Default You tube videos

These have been added to the forum

Caspers Chelsea protest video... added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_rPm9nOfxU

Post Munich video... added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_foUiTrfA4&NR

Busby video....added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyogg...elated&search=

Newton Heath and United....added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRV73...elated&search=

United 2002...added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsKAc...elated&search=

Sir Alex....added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GAwE...elated&search=

Flashmob....added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdN2JA2A2w

12 days of Cantona....added
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiHRjRnxwg0&NR

Sharp exit from Maine Road....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEKDFy9eios
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Old 16th December 2006, 23:08   #28
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These have been added to the forum

The Bayern game: youtube version added
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/83573/...en_final_1999/

Beckham from halfway line: youtube version added
http://grouper.com/video/MediaDetails.aspx?id=720615

First to a thousand goals: youtube version added
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/329902...ed_1000_goals/

Ronaldo, diving **** maybe, raw talent definately:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/156090...he_is_so_good/

Rooney and Ruud combine, think what coiuld have been: youtube version added
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/117080/fantastic_goal/

George Best: youtube version added
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/153868...mply_the_best/

United 3-1 City, December 06 youtube version added
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...er-ci?from=rss
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Old 17th December 2006, 10:58   #29
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Anyone want to help Tat out here?

We need the remainder of the season (thus far) and someone to separate Sean's post (http://www.joinmust.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31083) into separate threads per the instructions here: http://www.joinmust.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31130
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Old 17th December 2006, 12:55   #30
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Don't really see that there's much difference myself. Both work well. I've been scouring t'internet for videos and posted a few on the video forum. I've not gone too mad yet as I don't want to make too much work before the format of the whole thing is sorted out.

Also 3 things....

Firstly, I may be a bit silly here, but if we had 200 people all surfing the video site after the match, would the site be able to handle it? Could this create bandwidth problems? I'm sure you tech heads have already looked at this but thought I'd ask anyway.

Second - There are one or two other video sites with some good content on. Are we limiting ourselves to YouTube? I've started 2 seperate threads on the video forum and as you'll see, the YouTube copycat sites linked in "misc videos" are pretty much the same format as YT.

Thirdly - I'd be happy to help out, not sure if I can embed at the moment though? Could someone let me know if I can and maybe give me a couple of pointers if I am needed, cheers.

Oh and fourth point (Yes I know I said 3 points), I voted for Tat. Can't have the yank thinking he's the bees knees can I? I've seen him in his flannel house pants after all
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